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Green Hell

Posted by jab12004 on April 6, 2009

Green conspiracies! Authoritarian environmentalists dictating the very parameters of your daily life!  Limits on how many children you can have?????

If those phrases keep you up at night worrying about the future, then this Heritage Foundation event  is for you! Here is the description of the event

Behind the smiley-face rhetoric of “sustainability” and “conservation” – that warm and fuzzy public image that the environmental movement has cultivated for itself – resides a dark agenda. In Green Hell, Steve Milloy examines how the Greens aim to regulate your behavior, downsize your lifestyle, and invade the most intimate aspects of your personal life. He reflects on the authoritarian impulse underlying the Green crusade. Whether they’re demanding that you turn down your thermostat, stop driving your car, or engage in some other senseless act of self-denial, he argues that the Greens are envisioning a grim future for you marked by endless privation.

With apocalyptic predictions of environmental doom, the Green movement has gained influence throughout American society – from schools and local planning boards to the biggest corporations in the country. And their plans are much more ambitious than you think, says Milloy. What the Greens really seek, with increasing success, is to dictate the very parameters of your daily life – where you can live, what transportation you can use, what you can eat, and even how many children you can have

I really like the communist/fascist overtones used to characterize the green movement. Even the biggest corporations (the last bastions of civilization) have fallen under their spell!! And watch out, environmentalists want to invade every aspect of our lives.

All of this from an organization who supported the Patriot act

5 Responses to “Green Hell”

  1. Hydra said

    Still, you have to wonder what the Greens are doing wrong to create such vitriolic diatribe.

    Here is an example: I hired a local service company to come and fix my oil burner. They replaced a plastic driveshaft about four inches long, that connects the motor to the blower. The part cost around $19.39, plus the labor to install it.

    The bill contained an additional charge for $14.89 for “EPA/HAZMAT compliance”.

    Do that to enough people long enough and you will create a backlash.

    Or, just look around at all the examples of expensive plastic silt fence applied, by law, in places where it will do absolutely no good. And we do this because it is “Green”?

    We see a long term decline in the willingness of people to pay for environmental protection vs their concernover the economy. At some point they will think they are paying enough.

    It behooves us greens to pay attention, because if we lett he pendulum swing to far, it will come back with a vengeance. This kind of rhetoric is an example.

  2. martin said

    A taste of things to come?

    Another reason to have ecologically sensitive and fair rules of the game, but supported by an open, market-driven environmental policy reform process. The water-melon or regulate and rule approach will surely create a backlash as Hydra observed.

  3. Zara said

    It really disturbs me that rational people actually believe this stuff. A third grade classmate and I have been conversing over facebook – she doesn’t believe that climate change is happening, and wrote:

    “I view all this propaganda [referring to the WWF Earth Hour] as one step closer for Obama and his friends alike to impose such oppressive policies and conditions that will further lead us into complete governmental control over every aspect of our lives, which is the true nature of their goals for America and this world.”

    Yes, she’s from Texas, but she also spent a good part of her childhood in Indonesia, where our school taught us, amongst other environmental things, about the dangers to the rainforest.

  4. Hydra said

    “It really disturbs me that rational people actually believe this stuff. ”

    Well, let me jsut say that when you suffer a regulatory taking that costs you several million dollars or so (opportunity cost), or even $50,000 or so cash out of pocket, then you become a believer real fast.

    Once that happens it is very easy and veryreal to feel as if you have been mugged, that someone is changing the rules of the game unfairly, and that “they” are suddenlty the enemy to be denigrated, villified, and demonized.

    Just look at some of the green vitriol about dirty, greedy, profit-taking polluters. Like you say, “It really disturbs me that rational people actually believe this stuff. ”

    We agree there are dangers to the rainforest. There is competiton for rainforest products whether that is envrionmental amenities or tropical hardwoods. The cost of hardwoods needs to internalize the external cost fo the loss of rainforest amenities. And likewise the cost of rainforest amenities needs to internalize the external cost of the loss of tropical hardwoods.

    We don’t get to claim rainforest amenities for free and at the same time demand everyone else’s externalities be paid for.

    At the very least we should not do that and then be surprised that rational people are upset because they think we are stealing from them.

  5. Carlos Ferreira said

    I’m with Martin on this one: the environmentalist movement has long been riddled with people that believe a market-based approach is not working, that it’s a waste of time and measures must be taken to prevent any problem to presents itself, regardless of cost, efficiency or society’s preferences. Sometimes it’s a bit watermelon, sometimes the inside color is different, but there’s a feeling of authoritarianism and hollier-than-though that’s not welcome. I used to belong to one environmentalist group, paid fees and all, and ended up quitting. People were simply not in the mood to hear about Environmental Economics.

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